Summer Predictions 2026: What Do James & Kellee See Ahead?

The energy is shifting, timelines are changing, and this summer may bring powerful opportunities for growth, awakening, and transformation.

Together, James and Kellee share their intuitive insights on:

✨ The biggest energetic themes of Summer 2026
✨ Collective shifts and changes happening around us
✨ Relationships, healing, and personal transformation
✨ Spiritual lessons emerging this season
✨ How to stay grounded as the energy accelerates
✨ What they are sensing for the months ahead

This is your chance to spend an evening with two beloved spiritual teachers as they explore what Spirit is revealing for the summer ahead—and answer your questions LIVE.

Something significant is stirring beneath the surface... are you feeling it too?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Welcome to the Hi everybody.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

It's me, Spiritual Media, and psychotherapist and author Kelly Woman, and guess who I'm with? James Van Krog. Yeah, Kelly. It's back together. Everybody is saying.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Well, we're always there, but you know, we're always in each other's hearts and thinking. And now I can ask you anything. How many years have Bonnie be on the show, right?

SPEAKER_03 0:57

A lot. A lot. Oh my gosh. Well, let me say hi to a few people, James. And then we'll I want to talk about you and what you've been up to. Okay. Oh my gosh. Hi Melissa. Hi, Dee from Chicago. She everybody's so excited, James. We're going to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Hi, everybody.

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Hey, Sonia. And Renee Rosseter. Oh, she's so happy that we're together, James.

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I don't maybe cry. I'm going to cry any second.

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Oh my gosh. And Leslie and Sweet Cherry Wine and Stacey. Hi, Cindy Harms. How are you, honey? Toby, the children's school of yoga. Isn't that a great, great?

SPEAKER_02 1:30

I love that. That's great.

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Just love that. And Benjamin says, Yay, the gang is back together. Oh my gosh. And Debbie Jewell and Sarah Stone and Crystal Cook from New Zealand. Hi there.

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And more Queb. Remember that? More Quebec, yeah. Oh my gosh.

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And Robert and we got a lot of people here tonight. This is great.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

So hi everybody. Good to see everyone again. Good to see your names.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Right. Oh my gosh. Well, tell everybody what you've been up to, honey.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Well, um, um, I did my own little podcast for a little bit after after we stopped Razon. I try to try and I just couldn't do it because I I think everything is in motion to do different things. So um, I'm building some in-person courses. I've been doing that, but also the biggest thing is I'm moving. So I'm moving my house of 11 years, a 5,000 square foot house down to one bedroom apartment. So that's been fun.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Wow. I mean, that's a challenge.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

It's it's interesting. So it's like everything you can think of. And and you know, I I just um I I've learned I've learned, oh, I don't know, a couple of years back, whatever. Every day surrendering, surrender really helps. And surrendering is just the way to do it, the way to live life is just surrender because there's so much stuff going on there, as we all know. There's so much noise, Kelly. We talk every week, we talk all the time, but there's so much noise that I'm not gonna get caught up in that noise, you know. I don't watch the news, I don't watch any of that. Um, I do watch true crime revenge sometimes because they always love that because psychologically, I'm like, how could they do that? But uh it's it's it's interesting because I just surrender to the craziness of good things going on and bad part bad drivers and and all that stuff, and and I just surrender to it. It's like it is what it is, and that's all it is. So I just that's that's how I do it. And um, yeah, I I I just um yeah, I guess that's it. I I love to um you know, still I still teach in my school, and I love to enlighten people and help them and do my courses there, but yeah, I'm gonna start painting, doing some painting when I move, and doing some habuas, yeah, some painting and some acting or singing, and then um also finish my book, which I'm in chapter five, and um, yeah, so I'm gonna do that, and then I'm doing another book, as you know, after that.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

So oh yes, yes, there's a lot of garden book, if you will. Garden book, but there's a lot of good things that will come up for you.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

I just gave I just gave 500 books away at the local library, you know, 500 books, and they were all classical spiritual books and lovely books. But yeah, it's good because you know, when you donate things, you give like I I I realize that's gonna help other people, you know, it's gonna open them up, who would let read that.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

So it's good to well, it's good for people who are stuck holding on to maybe a loved one's stuff or their own stuff, and that you know, it it just multiplies when you have so much stuff. So it's good to for you to take it.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

For other people to enjoy it. I remember spirit people always said, Why do you have your my stuff stuck in a box? Why don't you let other people who need it have it? And that's really what it's about. It's letting others share it. So yeah, what's happening astrologically? I haven't talked to you in so long about astrological things.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Well, we have a lot of things to discuss. I'm telling you, we have lots of things stuff, but tonight is a really special night. So I was really I'm thrilled that you're on tonight because tonight's a really special night.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Yeah, oh my gosh, we have tonight, everybody, we have a four-planet lineup, and it comes with the star regulus. So let me explain that. We have the moon and Venus and Mercury and Jupiter and the star regulus lighting up the sky. So it it's they're all in beneficent planets, James, all in really good energy planets. So this is such an extraordinary time because Jupiter is known as the great benefic. It's the guru, it's the good fortune, right? And it's lined up in alignment with Venus, and both in in Vedic astrology, they're both in Cancer, so the home, right? And Venus, you know, is relationships and wealth and harmony and all of these things, and it's with Mercury, you know, Mercury's and Gemini in Vedic astrology, and it's a neutral planet, but it's such a good day for communications and getting along with people and doing things. And then the moon is also in Cancer, and that's today's moon is actually considered a benefic moon, meaning a good moon, and it means positive and nurturing. And then when you look at Regulus, the star, Regulus is called the heart of the lion. All of this energy that's going on today is very special energy. So I couldn't be more thrilled. It will help people, and what we want to do today is to help inspire people because today's actually disalignment means to inspired thinking. And so thinking of yourself, and also I don't know about you, James, but I have had so many people talk to me about scarcity, like scarcity. They're afraid they're not going to have enough. And today's energy shifts people out of that scarcity mindset.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Oh, thank God. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 6:36

Right?

SPEAKER_02 6:36

Yeah, I just got the word transformation.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

Okay, so and that and this energy and regulus is the spark of that. So let's talk about this next period that we're in because it is all about transformation. So you got the hit on that word. That is absolutely the whole idea of this time period that we're in now. And I always want to remind everybody we signed up for this time period, we signed up for an awakening period. It doesn't mean that it's easy. There's no way. I mean, James, you and I'd be the first ones to say, Oh, no, no, this is a really hard school. You guys are going to come to Earth, it's tough, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:14

I said that about 45 minutes ago in my class. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Don't you want to just go, wait, what are you?

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Of course, it's special souls that chose to come back here. I mean, I I heard one of 11 souls make it here. And you know, when you think about it, I mean, so we have great work to do, and we're great. Remember, we're great beings. We are great beings of light. That's who we are. And our job is to bring that light to someone else and maybe open them up to their own light to illuminate them. So it's a rippling effect for everyone. And that's that's what we always got to keep our try, at least try to. Our goal should be to keep our mind to the highest level possible, our thoughts, our words, our deeds to the highest levels.

SPEAKER_03 7:55

Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny that you said transformation because starting in July, here we go, July 22nd, actually. So we're gonna, I will say that the next several months, everything has to do with transformation. And starting in July, on July 22nd, we have Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus all conjunct at 10 degrees, and it's so intense, it's such an intense time. And what does that mean? So let me tell you the last time this happened, 1993 to 1999, there was the internet explosion, right? The internet exploded, okay? That was uh with this conjunction with Neptune, then the Pluto conjunction also in 1966. What happened in 1966? Would you agree that that was like the change in consciousness and in the 60s? I mean, that was like really when changed '68 was quite a year, too. 68 was quite a year. Absolutely. And then the last one be that this energy happened was Neptune conjuncting Pluto 1890 to 1893. That was the spiritualist movement and the theosophical society and set uh seances, and and also the gold California gold rush. Okay, and there's a gold rush, right? Yeah, I mean, and so we're what we're talking about from July on, we are going to see great changes. It could be techno technology, certainly, uh, but we're gonna see a shift in consciousness and transformation. And I know people probably don't like change, and yet we're here to change.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

I think we need to. I think we need to. I I I I just want to say that I'm and I and I I just say this, I feel this, that people's um uh everyone's waiting for the next you know foot to go down, like they're waiting. Whether it's a government we're run in or whatever the political thing is, or wars, whatever the heck that craziness is. I feel it's coming to an end. I feel it's gonna be an easement coming. I really feel like the easement by the end of the summer. I I feel like there'll be an easement. Okay, wow, wow, that might be hard, but there'll be an easement.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

Interesting. Be and I'll let me that could happen, and then also in in July, also Saturn, which is the planet of karma, yeah, uh, of all kinds of things, but karma and you know, Sirius and government and all of that, it retrogrades, and when that retrogrades, and it's in Pisces in Vedic astrology, when in Pisces is the last sign, and so I feel that it's going to be uh a lot of spiritual lessons having to be learned.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

I I just heard spiritual awakening.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

That's it, that's it. That's and people will be visiting their unfinished responsibilities. Saturn holds you your feet to the fire in a sense, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

Yeah, responsible integrity, responsibility, get the job done. It's a taskmaster, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

So I feel that people are gonna be, you know, with their responsibilities, and uh that I've again I I just feel that collectively we will be working on fear collectively. Yeah, and have you noticed a lot of people with their fear?

SPEAKER_02 11:22

Oh, um, um, I don't spend a lot of time with people, but I soon will be. Um, I'm still spending time with my animals, the doggies at the dog parks. But um, there are people that are yeah, are fearful. Yeah, I mean, uh as a whole, yeah. But again, I smile, I say hello to them, I try, and even when they go, you go to the counter and they're like, you know, those um walking spinal cords. Hello, can I help you? Well, how are you today?

unknown 11:54

Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

I last night I had a server at a restaurant say, Yeah, okay, and here you go. I'm just like, wait a minute, wait, wait, let's talk first. How are you? And you want, uh thanks for asking. So we don't want that validation.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

I had the same experience on Saturday at a restaurant, and I actually said to Don, this is what James calls them walking brainstems, walking brainstems, that's it. Right. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Because we got to be the change, we've got to smile at them, and they gotta, and then once they get that energy, oh, okay, because I think a lot of these uh sounds like I sound like an old fart, but um no, you're an old boomer. Okay, a boomer. Yeah, I'm a boomer. And and looking back, it's it's like I think social media, good and bad. I think a lot of these kids, people, young adults are so addicted to their devices that they miss out on that empathetic connection with people, and the connection, period, yeah, absolutely. So I I am, I am used to it. I I'm used to the way I miss the old ways, and uh, I just want to bring that to them. See, there's another possibility, which is love and empathy and caring and and being uh smiling and being happy.

SPEAKER_03 13:02

That's been your message too on earth. That has been your message, always, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Always, always. You know, I like to be around happy people, and everybody out there, you should be around people that support you and bring you up and make you happy. And if you're not, say bye-bye, because life is too short. Life is too short not to have to have grumpy people and negative people in your space. You don't want that. It's like having a house, and you know, if it's filthy or dirty or you're hoarding, that's it's like bad people in your life who are just taking from you. Get rid of them, clean it out, you know, clean it, clean it out for sure.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

Oh my god, that's so true. How do you feel um that the stock market will go?

SPEAKER_02 13:43

I keep on getting up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down. And again, until the end of the summer, I think it'll do better, but I think right before the end of the summer it's gonna go down quite a bit.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

And then you see it coming back up again.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yeah, I do see it coming back up at the end of August, beginning of September. And it's very interesting because I mean, I don't know much about numbers and all that, but I have some stocks, and like and I keep on seeing red lines, which means I'm losing money. But um, I don't know, I have a feeling I'm just just hold on was down, and we'll see. I I'm really investing in like gold coins and and precious gems, and and you know, gold always holds its value no matter what, through centuries, and silver uh silver went down a little bit, but uh, it'll be okay. Commodities, I like commodities. Um, yeah, AI is gonna be good. I mean, it's gonna be good as far as investing. I think AI technology stocks, you know. I I lately it's come up about AI, and it's so funny because I was watching a program the other day about AI, and they're they're really afraid because it's gone its own way, it's gone crazy. It's like, yeah, well, it's like Pandora's box, you know, they let it out without any regulations, so now it's just gone crazy, and it's just um yeah, it's kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

When we talked about with um the internet explosion in 1993 to 1991, that it now it's the AI explosion.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Now it's the AI explosion. So that I think we'll see when you talk about that, Kelly. I think we'll see a change or variations of AI. I think there'll be something going on with that. I also have a feeling it sounds really weird, but a different mode of transportation. Doesn't that sound weird?

SPEAKER_03 15:18

It's very possible that are changing and all the transformation, James. That makes sense. I mean, you've seen the cars that drive themselves. So, what are they, Waymo's or my gosh?

SPEAKER_02 15:29

I was in LA and I was like, I almost got hit by one of those things. Like, what is that thing driving? And it's just bizarre.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

Bizarre. Imagine cars and then they take off flying like the Jetsons.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

That I I expect we'd have that by now. When I was a little boy, I I think I've talked this before on the show we did. That um, when I was a little kid, I had the awareness that when I was an adult, the cars would not be on streets, that there'd be magnetic strips, and that would promote them to move further. And I always thought that the magnets, and I'm sure Tesla probably knew about that, you know. When he the whole um I'm Nick Tesla was aware of that, but I think that all that was taken away because big companies, yeah, leather, you know, the uh uh the uh tire companies and gasoline companies didn't want to give away that free way of energy. So I uh but I always had that feeling as a kid, and I know it that that was a possibility. That my my adulthood, I thought I would have seen that by now, and we should have seen that by now.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

But big corporations, yeah, that that's so true.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Wow, it's like Chinatown. That's movie Chinatown was all about that.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

Yeah, wow, and when you were talking about August, interesting enough, we have two eclipses in August. And those eclipses are huge because it brings each eclipse. I think the first one is August 12th, and the other one is August 27th, and so they bring sudden transformations again. We're gonna go into transformation and transitions of power. So I think we're gonna see the old the old world order is going to continue to be transformed. This old new, this old, you know, the old the old is transforming into this to the new world.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Yeah, there'll be a change in our Congress and our Senate and all that stuff. I think by the end of the summer, there'll be major movements going on around there.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

Oh, major movements, and actually um, probably around November. November is a huge, huge month for that.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Well, that's the the the elections, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 17:28

Elections are that time, but we also have a shift in the accesses. The um Rahu and Kater Ketu change the access, and when they change the access, it actually is associated with government structures change.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 17:45

So it's it's that in corporate corporate change and societal uh attitudes. I mean, I think that from July on, we are gonna see a lot of great change coming out, and then again, that has everything to do with transformation, yeah, for sure. For sure. And you know, one thing I am gonna say, and I don't mean this to be controversial, but I I am gonna say this that in November, from the 13th to the 17th, if I think about November again, we've got another conjunction, and it happens to be it's a rough conjunction, and it happens to be Jupiter, K2, and Mars, and those those three together are radical, it means radical change, and it is in this next trade maga, and Trump's rising is MAGA. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna hold on with him that month would be a big change with him during that time period, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Yeah, I don't give him much thought, I really don't, and I don't either because it's a puppet, you know. There are the people that are there, and he's just the symbol, but I don't give that much, I don't give it my points of interest.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Good, that's good. Don't don't I just feel that there's uh gonna be a big shift that we're headed to.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree, I agree, Kelly. I think we're gonna see more in um solar cars, solar power. I think more solar power is gonna happen. I think we more solar companies, okay, more solar automotive, more solar. I I think we're gonna have that. You know, once these companies know how to work on that and they get money from it, then you know it's gonna happen. But I I feel some more solar, uh solar generated things will happen.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, that would be a why so new things, new, new new things, new things, new things, yeah. Which would be very cool. Uh, very cool to see.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

I think that would be I think also new ways of communication, which sounds really weird because you think you'd have everything you need, but I don't know. I think that um, I don't know. You know, you remember the uh Star Trek um be me up? Oh, yeah, and all that. Uh you know, I I think um I don't know, uh maybe not in our lifetime, but soon after that, when you think of someone you put the coordinates in there, I I think I don't know, they might be able to trans move, you know, move from one place to another.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

You know what a lot of people are talking about. I've heard a lot of astrologers talk about this, that there will be some um connection with the uh um intergalactic.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Oh, yeah, I think there's be more of that happening. Oh, totally. This year, this year. Okay, yeah, I think this year. I could I was talking about a good friend of mine, Britt Elders, and she's her Sheryl McLean's friend. And it was, you know, we all know each other. And I hadn't talked to her in a long, long time. And I found her number the other day. I hadn't talked to her in at least I don't know, six, seven years, and she wrote three books on UFOs, and now the government's releasing a lot of things, so I think there's gonna be a lot of that. There's gonna be a lot of interplay, there's gonna be a lot of interest there. I think there might be something else to that, you know, leading to the galactic, intergalactic, because they're all around us, you know, we're all around us, but I think people are gonna be much more open to it and uh maybe love communication more. We'll see.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Have you seen that movie Disclosure Day? I have not seen it yet. Not yet.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

No, I just finished watching Um Incredible Remarkable Beings with uh Sally Field. That yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Oh, how was that?

SPEAKER_02 21:09

It was great. I cried the moment it started, and I cried through all through way through it.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

Oh my gosh, it's really good, Kelly.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

You'd love it. It's great. I think she'll win Oscar or whatever it's gonna be for Netflix that she can win, but she'll win something. She was, you know, she's always great, but that was really wonderful from an octopus point of view. The humans, the humans from an octopus point. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 21:31

Renee is asking a question. She says, I wonder if you both have had any premonitions about the galactic beans. And she says, I've been seeing 26, I've been seeing the 26th this of the month. So I'm oh I'm yeah, it's hi, Renee.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

Good to hear for you from you again. I am uh the only thing I can relate to that is I hear more about it from people, and and something really weird. I don't get premonitions per se, let's let's say, but what I do get is if I walk out of my house, all of a sudden I'm starting to look up to the sky for. For no reason. And that's happening a lot. And that happens, um, that happened once when I went to Sedona, Arizona, and brought a group there years ago for a UFO outing to watch the UFOs because you can in Sedona. And um, you know, it's really important that there's there's such a high frequency that when we bring our frequency to a higher level, we're easier to connect with them. So I've done that um a lot, and but I'm finding myself being aware that we're being looked at, or I'm you know, I'm watching, or they're connecting. And I I'm it happens a lot more frequently now. I I've noticed that um I walk out of my house, look at the sky for no reason. And and all of a sudden I start seeing different things. Kelly, I think I spoke to you after that night. I brought Pearl out to to go outside, and all of a sudden I see the rocket right in front of me, and that was a satellite rocket that they they shooting. And I think I called you or said, Did you see that? And it was a rocket that they just said, it went right over my house. Right over.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

I think we're gonna see more of it because I think we'll see more of that. It is going so quickly, yeah. Everything, this timeline is moving fast.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

I just heard teleporting, yeah. Teleporting. Okay, teleporting.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

Is teleporting when all of a sudden you just show up somewhere?

SPEAKER_02 23:15

Yeah, teleporting. I think that'll come more to late. Not not this year, but it's gonna it's on its way. Teleporting. Weird, right?

SPEAKER_03 23:23

No, I I can see that happening. I can I see that happening. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

I think there'll be more biodegradable dishware, kitchenware. I think it'll be much more of a consciousness about um poisons and toxins in our foods, and um I do I do think that'll happen. I really, really I think plastics, I think the realizations of plastics in our environment and the harm that they cause and microplastic, I think all that's gonna start coming and changing by the end of this year.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

Because the consciousness is shifting, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

And you can't have artificial things because you have stuff that you have to have ingredients that sustain life, not take away from life.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Yeah, don't yeah, don't you find that even anything that you're looking at now, if you before you even put it in your body, you're gonna read about it, you're gonna think about it, and yeah, I'm a lot more conscious, yeah, things. And I think that is part of this this awakening that we're seeing that we are gonna see.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

I think people's value systems are gonna change a lot. I really don't believe that sure.

SPEAKER_03 24:26

Again, when uh that Saturn retrogrades, you bet, because people will there'll be people will have to deal with their things, and then maybe they'll become a little more conscious of things.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Well, it's funny. I I'm in an area with very wealthy people live in this area where I live in La Jolla and Del Mar area. I went to a restaurant last night for the really sold my house, and it was very nice. I went to a very exclusive restaurant, but the most expensive in San Diego, and it was a nice restaurant. And I thought, well, Ferrari, Ferrari over here and a Ferrari over there, and so and I thought, wow, what a waste, what a waste on me. But because I don't fall into that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 25:01

I'm like, it's just it's nice, but I don't know, but it's very interesting because you've never fallen into that.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

No, and I never thought I thought the people really like believed in this stuff. I mean, does this rule them? And I just got the feeling that one one of these days that's not gonna rule them, they're gonna realize it's just fake, it's just it's not, it's not their God, it's just stuff, it's things, it's just did you hear this guy?

SPEAKER_03 25:26

Did you hear there was a guy, and I don't know his name, but he was a billionaire. And if did you hear about this? He's a billionaire, he's probably 45 now, maybe 45. And um, he was at his house, I think in West Hollywood, he'd made a fortune, he was somewhere, made a fortune, and he looked around with all these people and all of the excess of access or excess of everything, and then he he literally had a like a a Jesus moment, like a a really like I don't know how else to say it, some sort of a deep change moment. And he said, I'm done with this life, literally turned it all that away and became a priest.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Oh, wow, isn't that interesting?

SPEAKER_03 26:06

It's pretty recent. Wow, yeah, I mean that would be one of those like wake-up moments, you know.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Well, I think I literally was driving to this restaurant last night and it was a very nice area in San Diego, and um, I don't know, I was I was just um I said I don't I shouldn't use the H word, but I think I know what you're gonna say. I'm not gonna say it, but um I let it fly, it's okay. I'm not crazy about wealthy people because not not everyone, of course. I can't do a broad general stroke there because I, of course, I know you know a lot of people, but I don't know, certain values can place on things. I don't know, it's just weird. It's just you know, there probably reason why is because I were 14 showings in my house, and um and they were different people. I mean, we're talking they were, and there was one girl who was a 16-year-old girl, and she said, Daddy, there's no place for my horses. I need a pasture.

SPEAKER_03 27:09

I'm like, dear God, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:13

And they were a lot like that, it was almost like that, you know. This is and uh the person following, I have a beautiful waterfall with Buddha in the top of it.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

Oh, it's spectacular.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

And then I said, What are you gonna do with your Buddha? Because you have a two-year-old son. He goes, Oh, we're gonna just dry it up. You gotta try it up. Yeah, we're not gonna take the waterfall. I mean, let me let the cat faster. Um, I don't know. I think people's values are so whacked up, and you know, I think television doesn't help, I think reality shows don't help. I just think social media knows it's so skewed. It's just you know, this what we're doing is helping people this way to be enlightened. And there's a positive way of using social media and to get the word out, but to abuse people by putting up falsehoods and illusions, illusionary lives, and what's important, what's not. It's like yeah, anyway, maybe for my older. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

Well, it it is well, first of all, you were always that way.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Yeah, that's true. You've known me long enough.

SPEAKER_03 28:10

You were always that way, so there's no bullshit on that. You were always that way, and it would have been a disappointment to see this. And and where I'm from, I was always this way as well. But coming from Beverly Hills, I would look at it all and I would remember always having these feelings like boy, they just they're just not there consciously. I always thought that. I always thought that.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

So I was when I was a young boy back in the day in my early 20s, moved to LA to be a sitcom writer. I had temporary jobs, and one of my jobs worked for the William Morris Agency, right? Which is the talent agency, and my job was working for the accounting department. And what I used to do was I was responsible for taking all the concert receipts from all of their clients that next day after all the ticket sales in these big bank bags. So I'm talking millions and millions and millions, and going to four or five different banks on Millshore Boulevard and delivering them. And the wherewithal in my head, I didn't even think of it. Like, I maybe I thought once there's probably a lot of money here. I could probably go to Belize or something and just get away. Because I it must have been hundreds of millions of dollars with all their concert receipts, and I was bringing them these bags to the banks, and it was like, wow, that's but it was also all that whole thing of the the the wealthy and there. I it's all just it's all money is an energy, it's what you do with it that matters, you know. It's what you you know, like my it's what you do with it, it's how you help you.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

It was the intent.

SPEAKER_02 29:39

I'm sorry, honey.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

You always taught me it was what's the intent.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

What's the intent behind it? And every thought that we have what's the intention behind the thought? What's the intention behind the act? Because when we pass over, we'll see the intention behind it. What were the ingredients of that thought? What were the ingredients of that action? What were the ingredients behind those words? Words linger, you know, they linger, and you know, that's part of the spell. My Stephen Sondheim wrote about that. Children will listen, yeah. And um, you know, yeah, so it's true. Words linger and thoughts are real.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

And Laura says, I feel in many ways, people that rely on love from material objects lack the love from within as they look for it in all the wrong ways.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

So there is a lady that sounds terrible, but there was a lady who was looking at my house, her and her husband, and he came in and I have a nice house. Um, you can find a more beautiful house, but not a beautiful more property because it's property thanks on her.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

It's a it's spectacular.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

And the the roofer, the roof inspector for the people said he came down. He goes, Well, did you find your problems? He goes, uh the gardens. I've never seen anything like this in this part of town. I've never seen anything like this. This is the most beautiful property I've seen. I said, Thank you. I take pride in that passion. But you know, uh, this lady was looking with her husband Michael, and he came to the house. And Michael said to the agent, I heard behind him was another room, and I heard him say, This house is great, juju, great energy. I love this house. And then he walked on the garden, he goes, I love this, I want this house. And I said, Well, there's a you know another offer in it. And uh, so they made an offer, but it was him and his wife. She wasn't there the first time. She they wanted to come back a second time, and they came back. I was sitting in another part of the uh property, and um I remember him saying hi and waving to me. I said, Hope you know you get this. And he goes, Yeah, and I walked in his wife, and she was um fooling around with the stove and the oven, and they looked at 16 houses. It's like hmm. So um they pulled out the offer, which I was surprised that I wasn't surprised, only because I thought the wife is running these two, and the wife, she's not happy within herself, so she'll never even if she built her own house, she still won't be happy because there's something lacking within. And when you're lacking within, you know, like anything, and nothing satisfies one, you know.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

Yeah, that's actually very true. It's it is if there is a lack within, they will go, people will go to the material, and then they're desperate and all that.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

And I I always say, you know, there are also those people that you know being a therapist too, with your work, you know, that people who are you know, are that that that syndrome where they take on other people's problems and they feel like they gotta give so much and they forget about themselves, right? They become the doormates, the floor, and they just and I think it's because um they don't have a sense of who they are that they're worthy to receive, and they have to have proper boundaries because they're not worthy. So if they give more, they'll get more. But that's not the way it works, right? No, it is who you are. First of all, loving yourself enough. Yeah, you love yourself enough to say no.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Everybody remember that you love yourself enough, love yourself a little more, yeah. Yeah, very true.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Always the essence of who you are, because you could change the world just by you know your words.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Everybody can, yeah, yeah, that's so so true here. Um, uh there's a what's oh, you know, Nadine is saying hi to us from V.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Hi, Nadine. Nice to see you again, sweetheart.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

She's just such a sweet gal. Oh my gosh. People were asking about the weather going forward, and we have had some strange ass weather, James. Really? I mean, do you have that we've had how many times have you?

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Yeah, we've had some really weird. We are in June gloom now. We had May Gray, now we're in June gloom. You know, the funny thing is, when I was here in um April, it was April and it was um March, March and April, there were um uh jet jets with um what do you call them? The lines, the uh oh, I remember those trails. The trail, the trail, yeah, the trails. Every day there were three or four. I had never seen that that to that extent. And uh they were every day, and it those are it affects the weather because they're putting in chemicals that'll affect the weather change, and it has. Um, I I think there'll be more earthquakes, I think there's gonna be more floods, I think there's gonna be more fires. I don't think we're out of it yet.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

I we're not at all out of it.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

Months, at least a year were more, and it's just the weirdest because in all different parts of the country there's such different weather. You just said it's had a tornado last week.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

Well, for the last three weeks, we've had nothing but tornadoes and having to run into the basement. Yeah, lots of tornadoes. In fact, even yesterday. Yeah, it's insane. Wow. Wow. A couple of people have been asking how Peter is doing.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

Peter is in aborting care, and um, he's doing fine. He's um uh I I he has a death doula who uh actually was who was actually someone I gave a reading to in a demonstration three years ago, and now she's actually his death jewula, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

She goes, a lot of work on being becoming a death duel.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

Her mother came through and uh she became a death jewula, and she's very good at it. And um, I think he's making peace with himself. I'm hoping he is. I uh you know, I just uh you know he's he's letting himself not see many people, he just wants to relax, and and that's that's what he's doing. 19 rounds of chemo. So bless you. Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:08

Which is pretty extraordinary. Um so Charlene is talking about the energy in Sedona, about the high energy in Sedona. Have you spent any time in Sedona?

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah, I spent a lot of time. I used to do with groups down there, and uh uh I think I told you this once before, Kelly. I was with uh Ron Oyer, a mutual friend of ours, trips, and we went to um we're doing a site visit for Sedona for one of our uh retreats, and we're going to Airport Mesa, and Airport Mesa is vortex. We have like male-female energy, and we both stepped down and we felt we fell into a portal. There's nothing below us, and Ron looked, he was in front of me, and he looked back you never imagined this. I don't want to talk about it. He goes, I don't want to talk about it. But yeah, it's it's it's definitely strong vortexes there of energy, no doubt about it. Also, Santa Fe, New Mexico, a lot of activity out there. Um, they like the iron ore that's in the mountains. That's what I've heard. Mount Shasta as well. Um, someone once Kelly, I don't know if we talked about it once, that there's actually a trail between, you know, uh up the Mount Chasta goes all the way down to South America. There's this long trail of through Sedona, and it's like a top of a galactic, a galactic trail that there's those are points, yeah. Different points they have, and it's Mount Chasta Sedona, the place in South Africa, not South America that have them. Yeah, I believe that.

SPEAKER_03 36:34

I do too. Now, before I forget, you have an upcoming thing in Fiji, right?

SPEAKER_02 36:41

Right, I have a couple of things coming up. Tomorrow night, I'm doing a reading with uh doing an evening of spirit messages uh with uh Daniel Monroe, a student of mine, and that's tomorrow night, uh, or tomorrow afternoon at bandproduct.com. And then there um Fiji, I'm doing my only retreat with Sue White, who I did uh a retreat in Maui in July. It went so well, I got my my tattoo.

SPEAKER_03 37:01

That's great. There were three of you with that.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Three and Melissa Rose, yes. And then we'll be three again. There'll be another girl, Corinne, who specialized in and body work body work, Pilates, breath work, and so we'll be doing yoga movement and also um intention work, and I'll be doing mediumship intuition work and meditation in the water, and and we're gonna be doing something called soul jumping, which um gave me this last month, and it's um going from one lifetime to another lifetime. But because we're in linear time, this earth, once we step out of that, we can go in different lifetimes in the future, present, fast, and so we're gonna be holding. And they said it's called soul jumping. They told me so just soul jumping. That'll be interesting. So it's it's finding your soul, it's really getting to that soul fabric of who you are, honoring that, and seeing what's holding you back from awareness of that total totalness, if you will. And uh, yeah, so it's gonna be wonderful. It's in Fiji and it's the end of September.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Oh my gosh, that ought to be fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

It's a limited amount of people. I mean, it's 15 people, I think it is.

SPEAKER_03 38:05

Oh my gosh, I think everybody should try to figure that one out. Anne Margaret, you should go.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Yes, Anne Margaret, you'd love it there, darling.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

You would love it, you would have fun with that one. And I'm sorry, everybody, that some ads are popping up. I have no idea why that's happening. It's not because I put them there.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

Is that on uh Facebook or YouTube or what?

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Probably, I'm guessing. And I do sorry, we'll we'll be checking into that. I have no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

And a lot of hackers, and it's gonna hacking is gonna get worse too, by the way. I hate to tell everybody, but yeah, that's gonna get worse. Hacking's a full-time profession now.

SPEAKER_03 38:38

Oh my gosh, James. How many times have you been hacked?

SPEAKER_02 38:40

I know on my website, people asking for readings, and oh yeah, at least 10 times.

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Yeah, oh, it's it's just awful. Yeah, people are, I think, are gonna love the soul jumping. That is a wild soul jumping.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Is that great?

SPEAKER_03 38:53

Um, and I they're saying that that they love how you always delve deeper.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

I have to, which loves somewhere to mine. I mean, we don't get enough in one lifetime, we just hit the surface, so let's go a little bit deeper, you know. And and and this Maui trip I did in July changed people's lives so much that I got the tattoo, and uh, we had a reunion afterwards, and it was just people couldn't even put into words their feelings about it. So, this is gonna be one step even deeper, and it's a beautiful retreat center that they invited us to go. They heard about they heard how great Maui was, these people, these promoters, and uh this guy Alex, he's from Italy, and he's uh he does work over there, and he said we heard so much about your Maui retreat. I don't know how that got out, but um, see, please can you make come over here?

SPEAKER_03 39:40

So we're doing features it's called it's called Illumination, Illumination, and they can find that on Van Prog.com.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

Yeah, my website. Which it's called Illumination Retreat.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

Okay, and people can sign up to go hear you and um Daniel tomorrow. Yep, and and you guys are gonna be doing uh medium readings.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

We're gonna do mediumship, medium ship readings. We're doing single ones, and um, I'll do you know, we'll do single, then we'll might be double link. Um, yeah, we do all different types of things, and it's fun. I like working with another medium and uh doing that. And you and I should do one month.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

I will you know, I would love to.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Okay, we'll do one.

SPEAKER_03 40:16

No, working with James, everybody, just so you know, is like playing the best game of tennis you could possibly have. It's so much fun. Oh we always have fun together, and you have to, we do.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

We always have fun. There's beer people love us having fun because they have fun and they I mean it's about love, you know. So they love us, they love it.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

So, so true. Oh my gosh. And I just want to mention I have a class with Dr. Shirley coming up, which James, you would love this class, actually. You would love it, and it's all about um why do they act that way? It's understanding personality disorders and patterns and triggers and boundaries, which is what you were talking about. I feel that this energy that comes up for this year and continues is going to bring up people's stuff so they don't tolerate nonsense. I call it nonsense, but it's deeper than that. It's deeper than that, you know, people with great traumas that are narcissists and all of that. And by the way, there's a new movie that's coming out about narcissists. Oh, James, I'll send you the link to it.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Oh, please do.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

Oh my god, Shirley saw it and she was like, it it's something, it's very intense, but you will, I think you will like it. But Shirley and I are teaching this class on June 22nd, no, June 24th. That's the wrong date. June 24th. Nope, June 27th. I'm sorry, June 27th. And it's like from uh like I don't know, 10 or 10 in the morning till noon or something like that. So please check out our our class because it's gonna be a great, great class. I love working with Shirley and uh doing these kind of classes as well. And I also love working with James.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

Hey Kelly, so I something I thought about you. I always think about you, but uh lunchtime, my trainer, um, we were talking, we had coffee together, and um, he went to his girlfriend, and um it's very important, it's very interesting. We talked on this uh trauma about trauma because the girlfriend opened up a trauma with him and trauma. And how important is it? I mean, you should I maybe you should tell everybody that to deal with your trauma, whether trauma from childhood or young adulthood or the trauma of your parents. So he said his mother's an alcoholic, and he brought his girlfriend over and she embarrassed him. But the mother obviously has trauma, but it's so important to deal with the trauma. How important is that?

SPEAKER_03 42:35

It's everything everything, and this lifetime is about looking, confronting whatever the shame is around it, whatever the blame is. Literally, it's the traumas will start to you, you there's so much work on trauma now that you won't be able to go, well, you know, it doesn't matter, like it. But in our generation, James, the boomers, we were told, ah, zip it, shut up, it didn't happen, keep going. So what? I dealt with it. Your mother, everybody dealt with it's not how it is now. No, these are different awarenesses, and that's that consciousness part. It's everything. If you feel your trauma, if it starts to come up now, deal with it, please. It's everything, and and I think that's why on some level there's a lot of I'll call it negative energy or dark energy or whatever you want to call it. Um, because it it forces us then to deal with our stuff.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

That's true, that's true. We've got we've come back here to deal with our stuff.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

That's why we come here. We come here to deal with it. So thanks for asking about that because it's I think it's it's everything. Guess who just wrote in our very good friend Janelle Campbell? I knew you're gonna say that I'm soul jumping right now. Okay, Janelle. We'll jump with you. You know we would. I had so much fun with Janelle. I did a um a start. RC class with her. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

Have that go, Kelly.

SPEAKER_03 44:03

So great. First of all, she's a wonderful medium, but she's always phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

You are phenomenal, Janelle.

SPEAKER_03 44:09

Phenomenal channeler. She can channel.

unknown 44:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

It's a great teacher. Great wonderful teacher.

SPEAKER_03 44:16

Teacher of the year last year. Yeah. That's right, teacher of the year. It's really something. So Janelle, thanks for for chiming in tonight. I'm so glad. It would be fun to soul jump with her, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_04 44:28

I had a couple of times.

SPEAKER_03 44:31

Good experiences there. Oh my God, which is so fun. Um okay. So somebody asked me about today. It was Kim Ann. She asked me about trying to deal with somebody who's alive who had caused them so much trouble, you know, probably from a lot of abuse while they're alive, and they're not dead, they're alive. And can you use what's called the chair method? And yes, you can. You can imagine with your and put them in that chair and tell them every single thing that they did. And I will tell you what, that energy will get to them. That energy will get to them.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

Let me ask you a question, Kelly, if you don't mind being a therapist too. You have to put your therapist hat on. Okay. Um, so when someone is um unfulfilled in one aspect of their life, let's say a relationship, but they're really angry, that that that hasn't worked out. And let's say within themselves are angry that hasn't worked out. Um, they can take that anger and and really project onto somebody else, right?

SPEAKER_03 45:27

That's what usually what happens, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

That's usually what happens.

SPEAKER_03 45:30

Okay, yeah, that's what and you can always tell when somebody's really angry what happened. What first of all, you know what the first thing I do, James, when I find when I am around anybody who's very angry, I am curious if they had a head injury.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

Really?

SPEAKER_03 45:47

One of the first places I go with it. I can always get in the mother, the father, the you know, the wife. It's you know, there'll be a whole blame game back there.

SPEAKER_02 45:54

And but I always not loving themselves. Oh, love and being angry that they didn't get love in their life.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

Right, right. That they had a you know, this that was their background or that was their background. And when I work with people on that, because we also look at you know the family constellation, what tell me about your dad, tell me about your mom. I mean, the whole idea is to have some acceptance and some uh compassion for what you've gone through, maybe what they've gone through, and start to heal that, to heal that wound. I mean, again, you come to Earth at this time, they're wounds, they're wounds. I mean, don't you think when we leave the other side and we come to Earth that they're the other side is like, oh boy, here they go. I hope how how are they doing?

SPEAKER_02 46:40

And and I think we take up from what we left here before.

SPEAKER_03 46:43

Oh, yes. Tell about that.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Talk about I I just got the hit that like when you come back in this vibration, it's it's almost as if like going to an um an old room when you're a little kid, you go back to your old house, and you're an old room, you have old memories. I think we leave things off um that we didn't uh finish accomplished in that other lifetime that maybe we'll come back again and finish certain certain relationships, certain scenarios, certain situations that we didn't quite finish up in that other lifetime. I think we we do do some of that. Yeah, I think there's some leftover.

SPEAKER_03 47:14

And what is the ultimate reason to keep coming back then? What are you here to learn?

SPEAKER_02 47:19

I I think we're here not only to learn loving ourselves, but loving one another and helping embrace that consciousness of the entire human world. This the human the humans they need to be more loving toward one another. I mean, war is the worst you're killing yourself. I mean, we're just hurting each other. We hurt ourselves with war and because the the awareness change the consciousness. We come back here to change the consciousness, expand the awareness for sure. And the only way to do it is love. That's it. That is it. The only way to do it is love.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

Somebody else, you're really hurting yourself, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

I mean, spirit often talks about war is the most ridiculous, foolish thing because you're just hurting yourself. We're all connected as one being, so we're just hurting ourselves, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

And what do you think? And we've talked about life reviews many times, but what do you think the goal for a life review is?

SPEAKER_02 48:12

Well, you know, you're a weirdo, Kellyanne that's why I love you. Because in my class today, I was talking to a lady about, and I thought of you. Okay, you need to do your life review while you're still in the body, right? Right? Because that's really important. Because a life review while you're still here in the body, um, it you can have unfinished business. Maybe there's some you can't forgive, maybe there's someone you need to say, I love you too. Maybe you had unrealistic expectations, whatever it might be, make sure there's a clean slate before you leave the physical world. You do not want to bring the emotional upsets and burdens to the other side of life because that's a mental vibration over there, and all those thoughts will be realized. One, two, three, and the pain is significant. My brother went through it and he said, Tell everyone, don't bring that over here. It's it's gonna hurt them, it'll hinder them. That pain of unfinished business, of resentment, of guilt. Take care of it while you're still in the body. That's what he told me.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

And that's what Michael said.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

Michael said, Yeah, a long time that he was really uh upset about it. It was like being in purgatory or or a hellish, you know, not with fire, but you know, we can be our worst judges and to be faced with look at yourself in the mirror when you pass over. Of all the ways you hurt people, all the things you said you didn't mean, that comes back to you. Everything comes back. So take care of those things.

SPEAKER_03 49:35

Absolutely, great, absolutely. Laura has another question, uh another comment here, and I think it's it's a good question. She says, When we did not finish up in one lifetime, then the gifts we stored in the soul from the previous life, can that be used in the new life?

SPEAKER_02 49:50

Sure, you build you build upon it, so you can't go backwards. Once you've progressed, you can't go you can't not go back, you'll go backwards. It's always always like crossing a street, a green light means go, red means stop. You've learned that already. So it won't stop learning. You grow, you expand from what you've learned, you learn more and more and more and more. So that that does happen, but but I will say this there are certain people that are giving God-giving gifts, abilities, and they don't use them in one lifetime, and then they go to the other side, it's like, wow, I had all these abilities to help people, and I didn't choose to do it because I was I was afraid, I was fear, or I was afraid what people thought of me, so it's fear-based, you see. So that's something which might be a little regretful when they pass over.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

We I get a lot of that when I do mediumship, you know, there are some regrets.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

Yeah, not regrets. That's that's what I wrote the book on finished business years ago because I got so tired of what the only spirit people come through and saying, if only I knew better, if only I did you know what I should have in love instead of fear, I would have been so much better off. I heard it thousands of times, so I wrote the book on finished business that to deal with your business, yeah, while you're here, deal with it.

SPEAKER_03 51:00

Wow, wow, and and your new book that's coming out, yes, my autobiography.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

Yeah, which is time to write because I'm moving, so I can only do so much. I mean, I'm I'm really but I left it off in the seminary, and uh, because I'm a sick person, you know, I've I'm a sicko, uh, I'm in the seminary. I'm 14 years old. I'm in the seminary, and I was abused, not abused, I guess made fun of my whole life since I was uh you know a young kid in first grade because I think my height really what I think it was as a healer told me many years later, I came back in stature because I had such energy that people would not get my message, they would they wouldn't hear it. Intimidate I would intimidate them, so I came back shorter. That makes sense to me. So I I talk about them in seminar and I first got the first night I got in the seminar when I was 14 to be a priest, and all these kids are clicking around and they're kind of making fun, I guess, of me. And I went into bed that night, and there's a mop. They put a mop in my bed, and the ending of my fifth chapter is I closing my eyes and I thought, oh Jesus Christ, what have I gotten myself into?

SPEAKER_03 52:07

Oh my god.

unknown 52:10

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 52:13

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

And now I'm on the chapter six.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

I think people are gonna love it.

SPEAKER_02 52:18

It's gonna be a great, it's a great book. I the chapter six is a part of in the seminary. There was a certain place in the seminary where it was kind of a portal. I would see other worlds, I would see other lifetimes and ladies of period dresses, and it was uh it was at the Vanderbilt Museum, well, Vanderbilt House that was built near Franklin Delan Roosevelt's um in High Park, his uh mansion there, and it was part of his property, it was a Vanderbilt House. And um, it was an interesting time because it was only I never really felt connected in the church, in the church. Um, but there was one place I felt very connected, and it was the stairway where they would introduce people for their parties and this sort of thing. And when I was a feeling threatened or lonely, I used to go in this little area and I used to see people in from different periods of times.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

Wow, that's the next chapter. Always see that.

SPEAKER_02 53:09

Wow, yeah, that's a great, great, interesting. I mean, the book is really very fascinating because as I've told you, it's from my soul's point of view. So it's my soul, it's all from a soul's point of view being human and those human experiences.

SPEAKER_03 53:24

Wow, so it's a little different, yeah. It's gonna be good, different, it's gonna be incredible. And if you are asking if it'll be an audio, too. You'll you'll do it.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

Yes, I'll make sure I'm doing the audio this time because all the other books that I've done, the first uh after the third book, the publishers used another uh off another person to do the audio, and it's unfortunate because you know, your voice that vibration, you have to know the right vibration and frequency that those words match, and then and people pick up on that, they know that. So I'll make sure anything I do in the future will all be my voice.

SPEAKER_03 53:56

I'm gonna ask one question that somebody's asking, and then we're almost gonna finish. Yeah, it is, but tonight did you ever feel scared?

SPEAKER_02 54:06

I've asked that a lot. I I'm asked that all the time. And I mean, I was asked the last time by this real girl, you ever scared? I was like, No, never. To me, it was all very natural. To me, seeing spirit as a young boy, I thought every kid could see, you know, friends on Saturday mornings playing games, and they say, Oh, look at there's a guy over there, you know. You know, you see that guy. What are you talking about? He's right over there with that girl. What do you see? You're crazy. And I just I just knew what I thought every kid could see things because you know, we measure our world by what our experiences, and my experience was seeing these spirits, I guess I should call them, and and I could just see them, not all the time now. You know, it's not like I see them all the time. No, there were just moments when I'd see them. I couldn't um you know bring them up, but whenever I did, I did. And I remember asking my mommy uh once, I said, um, when we were saying our prayers, I said, Who are those people at the end of the bed with the lights around them? And she said, Oh, them, those are God's angels. You see them too. She goes, I used to see them when I was a little girl, and you have nothing to be afraid of, they're they'll always take care of you. And and she was right. I mean, it's very natural, you know, psychic intuitive work is extremely natural. Um, you know, when I think my my relatives came from Ireland and England and Wales, and and then it's very natural. And in part of chapter two, I talk about that, my their upbringing, and they use nature for healing remedies. And you know, it was they worked with the kingdoms of divas and uh the you know, the all the uh earth kingdoms, if you will. And that's it's just very natural for us. It's the human is just um, yeah. So I I'm I I I just no, never been afraid. I'm more afraid of the living than end of the dead, and and I'll stick by that. Always afraid more of the living than the dead. And I've had experiences with the living people, and it's been frightening, it's been so frightening that you know it's even traumatizing. It's um it's uh one of the worst things you can do as humans can do with some of the worst things possible to one another.

SPEAKER_03 56:00

Absolutely, and that's hence the hence our class on June 27th about personality disorders because it's a real thing out here on earth, it's a real thing here.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

Oh it's crazy, but yeah, it's real.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

And you have a mediumship platform class, yes.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

I'm sorry, Kelly. I I so there, yes, thank you for mentioning it. I I'm doing um uh an in-person event for four days, and it's on mediumship platform work, which it's so when you people do a demonstration, we call it where you have an audience of people. Uh, that's called a demonstration, so demonstration of mediumship. So I'm going to teach people how to work with on a stage in front of a group of people, how to connect with the spirit world. You have several spirits at once or several people in the audience. How do you do that? What techniques do you use and different ways in that I've used for 40 years? So that's an in-person workshop here in Solana Beach, California, which is San Diego, and I'll be doing that in July.

SPEAKER_03 56:56

And do they need mediumship one to do it or two?

SPEAKER_02 56:59

Or um, if you're a medium, it's or a working medium, that's all you need. If you're a medium ship one student, fine. But if you're a medium of you know you were doing readings now and you haven't taken my classes, but you're a medium, then you're accepted in it. I mean, and I'll find out right away if you're really a medium, and I'll find out and I'll call you on it. So that's the thing, you know, you're not ready to call people on their stuff.

SPEAKER_03 57:19

If you think you're afraid to get on the stage, forget about it. Be afraid of James, because he will literally let you know.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

I I worked with that lady who was oh gosh, I I forget her name. She was a psychic on TV. What's her name? Rosen or Rosen, Rebecca Rosen. Yeah, remember her? The young girl in Jim. And we did an event together uh at a center, and she kept on walking over to the audience member. And I said, No, no, no, no, no, no. She goes, Well, I said, Rebecca, could back up here. I said, That's not a demonstration because when you walk to that person, you're closing out all the people that are in the first two rows. That is a one-on-one reading. That's not what we do for a demonstration. And platform mediumship, we stay up on the stage or on the platform, and you're working with that person from the platform, and you're also encompassing all the people in your group. So there is a big difference, and a lot of mediums don't know that. And that's Teresa Caputo. I love Teresa Caputo, but great, great example of one-on-one readings. She has a very hard time doing platform mediumship. He has to go in front of the person, even to the stadium, she'll go up in front of them. That's a one-on-one reading, and it's just um they're not secure with their mediumship, and that's why they do.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

I remember doing a uh platform with you on we were in Chicago, and you started talking about to somebody who there was a nun in the family, and in that conversation about the nun and the sister and the da da da da da, four people sitting next to her, it's what you just said. Literally, in that energy were also nuns, or there were some their family, yes, that's right. What are the odds of that?

SPEAKER_02 58:51

But also, we got to remember that the spirit world probably set them together that influenced them or transmitted them in some way together. I mean, if Carolyn Mumelow could do it with the jewel with the diamond, please.

unknown 59:04

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Don't you miss her? I miss Carolyn. That was the she I miss her a lot, and this is for for everybody, my friend Carolyn Mumelo. You might remember her, she was a good friend of mine, Kelly's, and she was in New York on the show, and she was like great with cards, yeah. And she um she came to me in a dream about three weeks ago, and I I I said, I was kind of pissed off at her being the New Yorker. I said, Why haven't I heard from you? Why haven't you been around? And she says, James, I've been in your ear, James. I said, Okay. And she gave me she gave me a concept, which I like the concept. And the before this, I've heard that it's like spirit likes to sit. It's like us humans, if we go to eight feet of water, which is in the bottom of the pool and have a conversation, that's what it's like. But for us, it's not natural. We got to go back up and get some air. Same with them. She said, James, it's like I'm a helium balloon, and I have to go up to a higher level of where I belong. And if I come down this lower level, it's like I can't breathe.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:03

Oh my god. And I this is really funny. And this is from Ann Margaret. She says, I loved her. I had a reading with her three hours before she passed. I don't think I knew that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

I don't didn't know that. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:20

Well, maybe on that note.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

Really? Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:24

Well, James, thank you so much for joining me.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

Thank you very much for having me. Thanks, everybody. Really?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:29

Oh my gosh. So everybody check out everything that James is doing, okay? And hope to see you soon. All right.